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Wickes "Slablayer" - how to use ?

Last post Tue, Aug 31 2010, 3:09 PM by Twee. 6 replies.
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  •  Tue, Aug 31 2010, 3:09 PM

    Re: Wickes "Slablayer" - how to use ?

    MickBee:

    The Slablayer instructions suggest a 25mm / 1" layer - for a new bed.

    I think it would be better to remove (some of) the old mortar; if you only take off a little, it might be worth coating the old mortar with PVA, so that the Slablayer lower surface can key into it? If you take off 20mm plus, the old mortar is only acting as a sub-base, so doesn't need keying.

    I would have thought that a spade would be sufficient (and quicker) for removing the old mortar, not a cold chisel (unless the old "mortar" was concrete); mortar ought to be weaker than the slab.

    Many Thanks - I will have a go this weekend.

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  •  Tue, Aug 31 2010, 2:44 PM

    Re: Wickes "Slablayer" - how to use ?

    The Slablayer instructions suggest a 25mm / 1" layer - for a new bed.

    I think it would be better to remove (some of) the old mortar; if you only take off a little, it might be worth coating the old mortar with PVA, so that the Slablayer lower surface can key into it? If you take off 20mm plus, the old mortar is only acting as a sub-base, so doesn't need keying.

    I would have thought that a spade would be sufficient (and quicker) for removing the old mortar, not a cold chisel (unless the old "mortar" was concrete); mortar ought to be weaker than the slab.

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  •  Tue, Aug 31 2010, 12:10 PM

    Re: Wickes "Slablayer" - how to use ?

    How thick a layer is required ?

    Since this is to RE-mortar paving stones which have come loose and are sitting on a bed of already set mortar - if I just put down a layer of slablayer - the stones will be proud of the rest by several mm ?

    I will have to cold chisel out enough old mortar to allow a flush finish ....

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  •  Tue, Aug 31 2010, 10:32 AM

    Re: Wickes "Slablayer" - how to use ?

    I used some Slablayer to lay new paving slabs, following the instructions on the bag; although the mortar set firmly as a mortar layer underneath the slabs, it did not adhere to the slabs - there was a sandy layer on top of the mortar.

    I emailed to Lafarge (also pointing out that the instructions could be better:

    a) Should less water be used (instruction 3 is vague "sprinkle .. until the Slablayer is wet through")?
    (b) How long should the Slablayer be let to harden (no instructions on the pack)?
    (c) Would dilute PVA on the slabs help (no instructions on the pack)?

    I had a helpful reply: "From what you state, it seems likely that the slab has sucked the moisture from the Slablayer, thus preventing the cement hydration and bond strength gain. To prevent this, either damp the slabs down a little prior to placement or wet the slabs thorughly a few hours after placement. An external PVA would solve this problem and guarantee a good bond, especially if there is little mechanical key on the underside of the slab."

    I followed both suggestions, wetting the slabs and coating their undersides with exterior PVA (not interior wood glue PVA) before laying them on damp Slablayer - and it has worked.

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  •  Wed, Aug 11 2010, 11:48 AM

    Re: Wickes "Slablayer" - how to use ?

    Thanks - looks easy !!

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  •  Wed, Aug 11 2010, 9:02 AM

    Re: Wickes "Slablayer" - how to use ?

    Twee:

    Lafarge Slablayer datasheet here...

    http://www.lafarge.co.uk/CementDatasheet/Slablayer.pdf

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  •  Wed, Aug 11 2010, 8:32 AM

    Wickes "Slablayer" - how to use ?

    I need to remortar a number of loose paving stones around the edge of our patio and have heard of Wickes Slablayer as a easy option - However I am uncertain exactly how to use it

    From what I gather - it is a ready mixed mortar - that you simply layer down on the surface / smooth off and water with a watering can, then bed the paving stones on this surface.........

    Is this true or is "mixing with water" involved ?

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