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Last post Tue, Nov 24 2009, 2:37 PM by Richard Key. 92 replies.
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  •  Fri, Nov 14 2008, 3:43 PM

    Re: swoopo.co.uk real deal?

    Simon what hours in the morning are best?
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  •  Fri, Nov 14 2008, 9:40 PM

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    Seems to be 3-4 am but beware, each auction is actually international. So US bidders may be on then...
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  •  Sat, Nov 15 2008, 11:41 PM

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    Someone just won a wii for £2.38 http://www.swoopo.co.uk/auction/wii-nintendo-console-wii-sports/117568.html

    Swoopo don't always make their money back. £2.38 would mean 34 bids and at 50p per bid they only got £17+£2.38=£19.38 for a wii.

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  •  Mon, Nov 17 2008, 9:22 AM

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    Swoopo claim to lose on 70% of auctions and "try to make their money back" on the other 30%.

    In reality, they do indeed often lose on the lower value items, but they do damn well on the big ones.

    Take the flat screen TVs for example. These high-value items are usually "fixed price" auctions (these are the ones that confuse and mislead observers who can't work out why someone is bidding £2000 for a £900 TV).

    Example:

    42" HD tv worth £900, fixed price £49.99 (i.e. winner pays £49.99 no matter how high the auction goes).

    The TV eventually goes to someone when it gets to £2100.00. At 7p per bid this means that 30,000 bids have been placed on it.

    Swoopo says bids cost 50p each - they do this to make the savings look even better than they are - but in reality, they're a bit cheaper than that. e.g. 60 bids costs £25.00. Let's be charitable and say bids cost an average of 48p.

    So swoopo has made £14,400 from the bids by the time the auction closes. They then also get the £49.99 + shipping from the winner.

    You can see why the "30%" make them money!

    Again, I will stress, this is gambling - not an auction. I do have sympathy with the view of people who say it should fall foul of gambling legislation, but I don't think this means they should be closed down. After all, it's still just using human psychology to make money, just like the online casinos. But perhaps they should be a bit more transparent in their t's and c's, i.e. swoopo needs a mixture of luck and strategy to win.

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  •  Wed, Nov 19 2008, 9:36 PM

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    Simon. I have "won" 4 items over the last 4 weeks and have so far not received any of them. I have not received any replies from SWOOPO "customer services"either. I am beginning to think I have been had big time! Have you received your goods yet?

    Andy

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  •  Wed, Nov 19 2008, 10:23 PM

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    I haven't yet, but received an email yesterday saying it has been shipped so watch this space. I think they have been going long enough to be closed down if they weren't shipping.
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  •  Wed, Nov 19 2008, 11:45 PM

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    I'll post likewise if/when I receive anything. They are despatching very few items and are using direct from supplier delivery. They are also offering the same item to multiple countries simutaneously so they may also have the problem of where to ship from. Even so, the poor comms from their customer services on such few sales does not fill me with confidence.
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  •  Sun, Nov 23 2008, 11:02 AM

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    yeah id definately be interested in hearing just how many people have recieved their items from these guys.

    does anyone know how long they have been going?

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  •  Tue, Nov 25 2008, 3:39 PM

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    Hi there,

    They have been going for around 3 years, may be less.

    I believe they have an excellent idea and it’s a simple as that - I think you would have work smart and get used to knowing when to bid

    Easier said than done I know - however I don’t believe there is anything dodgy about it

    re: shipping - I have emailed them to raise your concerns (and mine), ill let you know what they say

    Watch this space!

    Cheers

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  •  Wed, Nov 26 2008, 9:58 AM

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    Sorry but it is dodgy, totally! If swoopo were clear to all that bid that the actual chances of winning a bid are x in 1 IRRESPECTIVE of the amount lost during the bidding process then I am sure many would turn away and spend their money elsewhere!

    It is gambling. Nothing more, nothing less! I lost twenty pound, do I gamble more to try a recoup what I lost?

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  •  Fri, Nov 28 2008, 7:47 PM

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    I too decided to take a chance and try the Swoopo.co.uk site.

    I have to say, I watched several auctions before buying any bids and it really is a gamble. Some people win items with only 1 or 2 bids but that is not typical. On average I see winners putting in about 1/3 of the total bids.

    First, I won a 40 Pound auction and waited to see if they would pay me the money as they said within 5 business days, and it turns out they did.

    Since that time I have won 3 more auctions: 5gram gold bar, 50 free bids, and a Netbook computer. Now it sounds like I have been very successful but there were also several auctions that I bid on and didn't win.

    More importantly, I am still waiting for my physical items to arrive. The 50 bids I got in my Bid Account the next day. The gold and the computer....???....still waiting. They emailed that the netbook would be here today but it wasn't (18 days after I paid for the auction and 16 days after they said they were processing the order). The gold, I emailed them a few days ago as I hadn't heard anything about shipment yet (13 days after winning and paying for the item). The next day I got an email saying it was going to be about "16 days at the latest" before I received the gold which was the same timeframe they gave originally for the netbook.

    So winning is possible, I do believe there is some strategy and some luck in timing with who is watching and bidding at that time which are not controllable. However, you have to be willing to put in a number of bids and usually from what I see Bidbutler's typically win the items.

    Receiving the items.........so far a real waiting game. I will post again....IF THEY ARRIVE??

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  •  Tue, Dec 02 2008, 5:58 PM

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    Just to let you know that I received my Nintendo Wii last week. It was shipped via dabs.com and is a UK model and perfectly new and legit.

    :-)

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  •  Thu, Dec 04 2008, 10:21 PM

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    I've joined just to make a single simple point about this site having tried it myself... I'm a software engineer, but I'm not stupid! I have a simple 1st in Pure and Applied Mathematics and specialise in algorithms. Without being specific, I've done contract work for very similar sites and I can tell you that your chances of winning are.... well, slim. The simple math detailed in other posts is pretty much spot on, but, that does not explain the simple rules and conditions that are executed everytime the "Bid" button is placed. We all can do simple math, but look a little deeper... My advice is to forget it - unless you can afford to sit there continuously hitting the "Bid" button. THINK!

    eBay is much more fun - what you see is what you get. Rgds.

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  •  Fri, Dec 05 2008, 7:30 AM

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    AVOID THIS SITE AT ALL COSTS - I have just spent 12 hours and £98 trying to win a TV, having followed the protocol of bidding in the closing seconds (although all this does is extend the auction), only to have the page "freeze" before I could place my bid and lo and behold the auction ended!! Needless to say I shall not be attempting to get any further "bargains" and suggest everyone stay away. By the way, were you all aware that this site is international and not UK as it suggests, you are bidding against the rest of the world, I started at 7pm last night and it is now 7.30 am, there is no good time, ppl use "Bid Butlers" through the early hours but there will always be someone up and about somewhere in the world. Please take my advice and that of jahdyn and stick to E-Bay (although always look on-line cos sometimes e-bay can rip you off too).
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  •  Tue, Dec 16 2008, 10:46 AM

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    I agree absolutely with the above. I have now received my DS as well as my Wii, no problem.

    I also saw something on an ad about a program called Swooperator. It lets you analyse the results of previous auctions and work out when is the best time to bid, apparently. It's supposed to be around a fiver for the UK and 10 dollars for the US (not sure if that includes VAT or whatever).

    There is a website for it that I found by searching for swooperator on google but it isn't active yet.

    If it works, it looks like a good deal, especially if you get free updates.

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