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Parents with nPower bill that seems way too high

Last post Mon, Oct 19 2009, 3:18 PM by Mynewt. 4 replies.
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  •  Mon, Oct 19 2009, 11:30 AM

    Parents with nPower bill that seems way too high

    My parents moved over to nPower from their previous supplier in August 2008. They had been paying their previous supplier £100 per month for electricity only. They said that she should be paying more and decided to increase her bills accordingly. My mother then came across an nPower sales team when she was out shopping. They 'agreed' that under their current circumstances they were paying far too much and that their bill with nPower would be no more than £60 per month.

    On the basis of this, she agreed to switch and her monthly payments went down to £50 per month. Great, they thought. Until June this year when nPower decided they had been undercharging and decided to hit them for £260 per month (up until December) to cover what they say they should have been paying. By my calculations, nPower are therefore saying that my parents should have been paying between £140 and £160 per month when they switched (I don't have exact dates, so can't give an exact figure).

    It seems to me that even £140 is too much. We, as a family of four, are paying around £80 - £90 per month in electricity on a prepayment meter. This is the same as when we were living in Cardiff with Swalec as our provider. We're struggling to work out how on earth nPower are saying that my parents, who both work and live on their own (no kids at home), are paying up to twice as much.

    To give an example, this is what we typically have on at home:

    CRT 21" TV - 12 hours per day

    Desktop PC - 24 hours per day

    Monitor - 12 hours per day

    2nd Desktop PC - 4 hours per day

    Laptop plugged into the power socket - 2 hours per day

    Netbook plugged into the power socket - half hour per day

    Fridge Freezer & Chest Freezer - 24 hours per day

    Electric cooker (Oven & at least 1 hob) - 1 hour per day

    Kettle - 15 times a day

    Washing Machine - 3 hours a day

    Tumble Dryer - 1 hour a day

    Electric Iron & Hair straighteners combines - half hour a day

    Water heater - 24 hours per day

    Electric Shower - 20 minutes per day

    Vacuum Cleaner - what's one of those?

    This is what my parents have on:

    Desktop PC & Monitor - 3 hours per day

    Fridge Freezer & Chest Freezer - 24 hours per day

    42" LCD TV - 5 hours per day

    32" LCD TV - 2 hours per day

    Power tools - 2 hours PER WEEK!

    Electric Cooker - half hour per day

    Microwave - half hour per day

    Kettle - 5 times a day

    Washing Machine - 2 hours PER WEEK!

    Tumble Dryer - 2 hours PER WEEK!

    Electric Iron - 2 hours PER WEEK!

    Power shower - 10 minutes per day

    Water heater - never on.

    Vacuum Cleaner - 1 hour per day

    These are maximum limits.

    There are also other little things both households have, including Sky+, Sky Multiroom, broadband router, energy saving lights, etc. At the minute they're also using portable electric heaters but only for one room since they tend to live in the dining room ... the rest of the house is usually unused and all lights in the house, apart from the dining room and hallway are off virtually all day.

    All in all, the amount requested by nPower seems excessive considering that they're hardly in. Someone's home at our house virtually all the time.

    My mother has asked nPower to investigate but they've just flatly refused. She's obviously wondering if they're paying for the electricity of their only neighbours across the road (the house is a detached dormer bungalow in the middle of nowhere down a narrow back road with just one much older house opposite).

    How can we investigate what's going on here?

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  •  Mon, Oct 19 2009, 12:10 PM

    Re: Parents with nPower bill that seems way too high

    TickledPink:

    How can we investigate what's going on here?

    Electricity is charged by kWhr as registered on your meter not "by Direct Debit ££££s".

    You need to start by getting a handle on the actual consumption. Read the meter daily for a week, then weekly for a month and then monthly. Whenever you receive a bill or a statement which includes an estimated reading submit a customer reading and ask for the bill or statement to be re-issued.

    Unless you do that its impossible to know whether the monthly Direct Debit charges are reasonable or not.

    Whether NPower or the previous supplier was the best deal depends on the tariff not the monthly payments. Identify this from copies of the bills and compare the rates. Not easy. Post again if you need more help.

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  •  Mon, Oct 19 2009, 1:43 PM

    • Mynewt
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    Re: Parents with nPower bill that seems way too high

    While its great advice I hardly expect Tickled Pink to wait months before challenging Npower's claims. Still do excactly as Jalexa has advised as it will undoubtedly hold you in good stead for working out whats best for you in the future.

    Are any of your mother's bills based on ACTUAL meter readings, have the meter readers read or attempted to read the meter previously (and more importantly within the last two years). Is your mother in credit/debit currently? Do the meter details on their bills match the meter serial numbers on the physical meter?

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  •  Mon, Oct 19 2009, 2:32 PM

    Re: Parents with nPower bill that seems way too high

    TickledPink:

    How can we investigate what's going on here?

    Follow the last posts advice about checking estimates.

    There are a couple of issues (other than simply being missold on the monthly DD payment) that sometimes affects the issue you describe. Make sure than a fixed term tariff hasn't expired and you have been moved to a more expensive standard tariff.

    Specifically with NPower, they apply a 6 month review. Details here....

    http://www.npower.com/web/At_home/customer_service/yourquestionsanswered/faq_dd_5

    The particular effect of this is to set payments to achieve zero balance at the annual review ie in 6 months time in the case of a 6 month review. When applied just before the winter period it has the effect of setting a big monthly increase.

    Also with NPower, discounts are only paid after 12 months so you need to look out for that.

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  •  Mon, Oct 19 2009, 3:18 PM

    • Mynewt
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    Re: Parents with nPower bill that seems way too high

    .. and there preference to utilise seasonal weighting of primary and secondary unit allocations.
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