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Last post Sun, Jan 11 2009, 11:54 PM by conmankiller. 107 replies.
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Wed, Feb 06 2008, 8:02 PM |
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JHO7
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Hi to all regarding Lowells. I received a letter from Lowells approx. five months ago about a debt which I had not dealt with from the HSBC in 2003.It was my overdraft of around £1300,at an address I have not resided at since then. As it was a debt I recognised and one which I consider to be a 'live' debt,(within the six year time frame to affect my credit rating),I arranged a monthly repayment plan to avoid any adverse affects to my credit status as I have slowly built it back up since that year because of circumstances in my life and changes that have happened and could not afford any further financial knock backs if I was to finally get a mortgage application accepted.But on viewing my credit file I have a big black D in a newly appeared HSBC file entry.
Have I done the right thing honouring my debt and responsibility to pay with these people OR have I made a big naive mistake of acknowledgement at the time and they have struck lucky with me,bearing in mind the debt was not six years old.And should I continue to honour it or not and question their hard evidence.(I knew about the six years old its dead thing before I received any correspondence,been here once before many years ago).
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Mon, Feb 11 2008, 1:58 PM |
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Pammy1972
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Points 108
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I'm interested in reading your comments as I was contacted by a debt agency the other month (ECI) stating that they have taken over a debt from another debt company (Cabot), who had previously taken on the debt from Barclaycard. The problem is I've already contacted them and agreed a monthly payment. This debt dated back over 6 years as well. I have written to them though asking if they could contact Cabot to find out how much interest has been added, as I'm concerned that Cabot couldn't find me by ECI have - literally within 2 months of them taking on the debt. Could I write to them asking for a copy of the agreement, etc. and mention that until they provide a copy of that agreement I will not be paying the debt? Any advice very gratefully received. Many thanks
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Tue, Feb 19 2008, 3:06 PM |
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Pammy1972
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I've just spoken to someone at the National Debtline. She said that if a debt is over six years old, and no contact has been made (and you have made no written contact back or any payments within that period) then the debt is statute barred and there is nothing they can do, simple as that. If you go onto the National Debt website (www.nationaldebtline.co.uk) then there are sample letters on there that you can send to the creditor stating so and asking that no other communication is made. If you know 100% that you have not made any payments within that six year period or had any communication with them, then there is nothing they can do - they have to prove otherwise. Spread the word - there are so many people out there that do not know this - I even started paying my debt after the six year period (I have made two payments) but even the lady at the National Debtline said that still doesn't matter because the original debt is over six years old and was statute barred. I won't get any money back, but I have certainly cancelled any direct debit I had set up - what a relief! Good luck all!
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Wed, Aug 20 2008, 10:58 AM |
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PhishBlaster
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My wife received a letter from Lowell Portfolio I/Red Debt Collection Services (dated 13/08/2008) on Monday, alleging that she owed T-Mobile just under £200. We do not believe this to be correct, as the only dealings she has had with anything to do with T-Mobile was around 7 years ago, when she had a mobile phone contract with one2one (who were subsequently taken over by T-Mobile) but which she insists that she settled in full over 6 years ago and has not heard anything from T-Mobile or anyone else relating to that account since, apart from the letter from Lowell Portfolio I on Monday. Consequently, we have written to them stating that we do not acknowledge the debt, and citing Section 5 of the Limitation Act 1980 (i.e. any debt - which we allege does not exist anyway - would by now have become "Statute Barred" and they would hence be unable to take any legal action against us to recover the alleged debt). I've also found an item on the BBC's "One Show" website about a report which Dominic Littlewood made into debt collection agencies in which the Lowell Group are explicitly mentioned as having allegedly contacted the wrong person - who did not owe the debt in question - http://www.bbc.co.uk/theoneshow/article/2008/06/dld_debtletters.shtml - click on the video link for the report in which Lowell Group are mentioned. We are particularly concerned that the letter my wife received threatened home visits from "licensed field agents" and legal action in the County Court - definitely not what you want to read when you are disabled and suffering from a painful kidney infection - my poor wife was severely shocked and intimidated by that letter, especially since it arrived out of the blue with no previous contact regarding this issue!
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Thu, Aug 21 2008, 10:44 AM |
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PhishBlaster
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Given that you have made payments on a debt that was statute barred, you may want to check if the way your case was handled by the debt collection agency was in keeping with the Office of Fair Trading's guidelines, http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf In particular, section 2.14 of this document explicitly relates to statute barred debt: "2.14 In the past we have dealt with a number of statute barred debt cases governed by the Limitation Act 1980, which applies to England and Wales. Based on that experience our position with regard to England and Wales remains: a.we accept legally the debt exists b.it is the methods by which the debt is collected that can be unfair as follows: (i) it is unfair to pursue the debt if the debtor has heard nothing from the creditor during the relevant limitation period (ii) if a creditor has been in regular contact with a debtor before the debt is statute barred, then we do not consider it unfair to continue to attempt to recover the debt (iii) it is unfair to mislead debtors as to their rights and obligations, for example, falsely stating or implying that the debt is still legally recoverable and relying on consumers not knowing the relevant legal provisions, and (iv) continuing to press for payment after a debtor has stated that theywill not be paying a debt because it is statute barred could amount toharassment contrary to section 40 (1) of the Administration ofJustice Act 1970."
If the debt was definitely statute barred, then I would be inclined to carefully check the wording of any letters you may have received from the debt collection agency. Should the letters mention "legal action in the County Court" then this could possibly be seen to contravene point (iii) above and may therefore give you reason to complain to the Office of Fair Trading. Refer to the following link on the OFT's website for more information, http://www.oft.gov.uk/advice_and_resources/resource_base/legal/cca/debt-collection and note that a complaints form which may be used to contact the OFT is available to download from http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/DebtCollectionComplaintForm.DOC
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Thu, Aug 21 2008, 11:39 AM |
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benitodeltoro
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Points 40
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I Have received a letter stating - We are writing to you regards the address ****** which was supplied by experian. experian hold inforamtion on over 43 million uk consumers. they have informed us that you previously resided at the above address. it would be appreciated if you would contact us immediatly to confirm this information is correct. What should i do? having been reading about them sounds like i should not call them. please help
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Thu, Aug 21 2008, 1:12 PM |
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PhishBlaster
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I would recommend not to call them. From what you are saying, you imply that they have not specified any legal requirement for you to do so, only that "it would be appreciated". It may well be in your interests to delay any contact, as this may be in your favour if a debt exists which is close to reaching the 6-year time limit specified in the Limitation Act 1980 Section 5, after which a debt becomes "statute barred" and unable to be enforced by law (even though it is legal for a creditor to request payment for a "statute barred" debt although they would then be unable to take legal action against you). Note also what the OFT deems to be "unfair practice" in their debt collection guidance document http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/consumer_credit/oft664.pdf : 2.2 (b) "leaving out or presenting information in such a way that it creates a false or misleading impression or exploits debtors' lack of knowledge" 2.2 (c) "those contacting debtors not making clear who they are, who they work for, what their role is, what the purpose of the contact is" As you imply that they have not mentioned the existence of a debt in relation to their contact with you, but are seeking only to confirm your address details, this may also give you grounds for suggesting that they have been "leaving out" information under 2.2 (b) above, and/or not making clear "what the purpose of the contact is" under 2.2 (c) above. However, whether this is or is not the case would be up to the Office of Fair Trading to decide, should you wish to contact them regarding this matter.
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Thu, Aug 21 2008, 2:07 PM |
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benitodeltoro
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Thank you for your advice, I thought as much i will wait and see what develops. Many thanks
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Tue, Sep 09 2008, 2:04 AM |
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GMM
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Hi,I recieved a letter from Hamptons Legal on behalf of Lowell last week regarding a debt to barclayloan.I have already fully payed this debt to a previous recovery company (forget the co name) but last year I recieved a letter and numerous phone calls from a second company stating that I still owe £152.99 of the initial £750 debt. I informed them that this debt was from 4 years ago and had been paid in full and after many contacts they got the message that they wouldn't be getting any cash from me.Now it looks like the 2nd firm has sold my acct details to Lowells who are chancing there arm at getting me to pay.Oddly this was the first contact since clearing the debt,which if memory serves,final payment was made approx 2 years earlier Could I ask what people suggest I do? I'm retired and on a low/fixed income and just cannot afford to pay this (regardless of the fact that it has already been cleared). Sadly the debt is only approximately 5 years old now so the 6 year rule doesn't cover me but I would like to get this matter cleared up and equally importantly I'd like to ensure that I won't recieve any more of the threatening letters.Unfortunately after this length of time I don't have correspondance from the first debt recovery firm.
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