backfoot:

David,

Read it all back through,slowly and carefully.It's like dealing with the bewildered trying to get across a point to you.Every time a dissected post bounces back with utter dribble. Am I boverred anymore. Nah.

Good night Mr.Brent.

::::Yawn::::

I feel exactly the same! I've been trying to get the point across to you for months but it still hasn't quite reached the part that absorbs information because we seem to go round in circles with each other every few weeks!!

I think you and I are too similar backfoot!! How does that make you feel? :oP

Similar!! You have got be joking.

I thought I would help you with a quick recap.

1.Your one day petrol boycott idea is hair brained.It would have no effect short or long term. I don't detect any support here.

2.I tried to wind you up with an equally daft idea about an insurance protest.I can't believe you actually thought I was serious throughout the thread.

3.Underperform: To perform not as well as (something else).

4. Over three years a multitude of factors will have affected Aviva's share price performance. 'Recent results were solid,but marred by adverse weather impact.' (source Barclays Stockbrokers).

5.Aviva is tipped by most analysts to outperform its own sector in the period ahead and also for the sector to outperform the wider market.Of course that is no guarantee of success, but I might have a dabble myself.

6. I suggest you stick purely to being the self professed insurance expert......lol.Keep reading the books.

Similar!! You have got be joking.

Nope... very serious!

I thought I would help you with a quick recap.

Interesting...

1.Your one day petrol boycott idea is hair brained.It would have no effect short or long term. I don't detect any support here.

You may well or may not be right. Who knows. It was a suggestion. I am eager to hear your professional(?) opinion as to why it would have no effect short or long term? (Bearing in mind the effect is to make the companies rethink about their profit margins rather than put them out of business - that would be ridiculous!). Any company that loses an entire day's profit, especially on this scale, would be forced to rethink about the possiblity that the revolt may happen again and that they could lose more money. That's basic common sense, surely?

2.I tried to wind you up with an equally daft idea about an insurance protest.I can't believe you actually thought I was serious throughout the thread.

That's a pretty sad confession to make. Do you not have a hobby?

3.Underperform: To perform not as well as (something else).

Yes, I'm well aware of the definition but I was asking for your explanation in relation to your comment about Aviva.

4. Over three years a multitude of factors will have affected Aviva's share price performance. 'Recent results were solid,but marred by adverse weather impact.' (source Barclays Stockbrokers).

Okay, I didn't ask for a source to be quoted, I was asking for your views because you gave the impression you knew a lot about it. Clearly not then?

5.Aviva is tipped by most analysts to outperform its own sector in the period ahead and also for the sector to outperform the wider market.Of course that is no guarantee of success, but I might have a dabble myself.

You're going to have a dabble yourself? How does that correlate with your previous comments?

6. I suggest you stick purely to being the self professed insurance expert......lol.Keep reading the books.

(Psst. I've read them all :))

We've seen that you can cut and paste sources from Barclays Stockbrokers and that you can make absurd comments about an industry that you have absolutely no clue about. You are not even able to draw your own conclusion except to say that you 'might have a dabble'.

I've never professed to be an insurance expert. In actual fact, I've always protested it in the longer posts and I frequently ensure that people do not get the wrong idea! The bottom line, however, is that I know a hell of a lot more than you (backfoot) about it and I'm qualified in all areas on the topics that I frequently discuss. I'm not too sure where you 'get off' on trying to wind people up or attempt to discredit their advice/opinion when they are actually qualified and experienced enough to give the advice they do. It's actually quite rude.

My posts were still very much on-topic and keeping in line with the discussion. This post is still very much on-topic as I await your explanation as to why the idea wouldn't work. I am actually genuinely interested in the opinion because I'm being quite serious about it! Your addition to this thread could have been posted elsewhere for an opinion in order for it's content not to become obstructive to the flow of conversation; especially where very little of it relates to petrol prices but more to insurance.

Where's the fly spray? ::::sssss; sssssssss::::

PS. Numbers 3-6 were not recaps, and number 1 is borderline.

Just for fun because it's such good sport winding you up,I'll do a Vic and dissect each comment randomly.

Vicissitude:

Similar!! You have got be joking.

Nope... very serious!

Heaven forbid.No one I know possesses my charm.

I thought I would help you with a quick recap.

Interesting...

Thank you.I know.

1.Your one day petrol boycott idea is hair brained.It would have no effect short or long term. I don't detect any support here.

You may well or may not be right. Who knows. It was a suggestion. I am eager to hear your professional(?) opinion as to why it would have no effect short or long term? (Bearing in mind the effect is to make the companies rethink about their profit margins rather than put them out of business - that would be ridiculous!). Any company that loses an entire day's profit, especially on this scale, would be forced to rethink about the possiblity that the revolt may happen again and that they could lose more money. That's basic common sense, surely?

Rethink their profit margins......cloud cuckoo land.They would recoup the miniscule effect next time everyone fills up their tank.The rising price of petrol is predominantly down to high oil prices. Oil prices are high because of the weak dollar and because reserves are under pressure and there is a slim spare capacity margin .That scarcity is reflected in the high oil prices.

Less than a third of the price of a litre of petrol goes to the oil company. You are targetting the wrong people.

2.I tried to wind you up with an equally daft idea about an insurance protest.I can't believe you actually thought I was serious throughout the thread.

That's a pretty sad confession to make. Do you not have a hobby?

Not at all.Rather it shows your gullibility.I gave you plenty of fishing clues which is one of my many hobbies.

3.Underperform: To perform not as well as (something else).

Yes, I'm well aware of the definition but I was asking for your explanation in relation to your comment about Aviva.

Why would you want my explanation? I wouldn't pretend to be a financial analyst of Aviva.All I know is that your assessment of their share price was seriously funny based on the simplest of checks. It really is such a schoolboy error to look at a share price in isolation and say it is good or bad.I can tell you are smarting over this one......lol.

4. Over three years a multitude of factors will have affected Aviva's share price performance. 'Recent results were solid,but marred by adverse weather impact.' (source Barclays Stockbrokers).

Okay, I didn't ask for a source to be quoted, I was asking for your views because you gave the impression you knew a lot about it. Clearly not then?

Well you got one because it has authority and you couldn't try and trip me up.If you look back,I simply quoted Aviva's huge profitabilty to illustrate that large corporations often make large profits.It doesn't mean,everyone should boycott their operations.

5.Aviva is tipped by most analysts to outperform its own sector in the period ahead and also for the sector to outperform the wider market.Of course that is no guarantee of success, but I might have a dabble myself.

You're going to have a dabble yourself? How does that correlate with your previous comments?

What comments? If you mean that Aviva had underperformed (not my analysis but a fact),going forward (not history) then the majority of professional analysts think that they have good prospects for share price growth.In fact,out of 22 reviews 19 rate them currently as a Strong Buy or Buy. Hence there may be scope for an investment or dabble as I put it.Get your mind round past and future......lol.I am largely indiscriminate in share dealings,even resorting to the insurance sector if they have good prospects.Must be all those young drivers they are fleecing.

6. I suggest you stick purely to being the self professed insurance expert......lol.Keep reading the books.

(Psst. I've read them all :))

We've seen that you can cut and paste sources from Barclays Stockbrokers and that you can make absurd comments about an industry that you have absolutely no clue about. You are not even able to draw your own conclusion except to say that you 'might have a dabble'.

A smart commentator always quotes his sources.It shows good research. You refer to how widely read you are on insurance.It's the same thing Mr.Brent.

I've never professed to be an insurance expert. In actual fact, I've always protested it in the longer posts and I frequently ensure that people do not get the wrong idea! The bottom line, however, is that I know a hell of a lot more than you (backfoot) about it and I'm qualified in all areas on the topics that I frequently discuss. I'm not too sure where you 'get off' on trying to wind people up or attempt to discredit their advice/opinion when they are actually qualified and experienced enough to give the advice they do. It's actually quite rude.

Broad shoulders and stiff upper lip old chap.Stop your snivvelling.

My posts were still very much on-topic and keeping in line with the discussion. This post is still very much on-topic as I await your explanation as to why the idea wouldn't work. I am actually genuinely interested in the opinion because I'm being quite serious about it! Your addition to this thread could have been posted elsewhere for an opinion in order for it's content not to become obstructive to the flow of conversation; especially where very little of it relates to petrol prices but more to insurance.

Where's the fly spray? ::::sssss; sssssssss::::

PS. Numbers 3-6 were not recaps, and number 1 is borderline.

Utter drivel and didn't understand it.

Ref: backfoot post Tue, May 13 2008 4:28 PM.

Brilliant! So my comment about Aviva's price being 'pretty healthy' turned out to be a winner then afterall then? It's irrelevant it being in isolation or otherwise.

Great post, backfoot! Not contradictory at all! <koff> :)

Eeeek ................that 's your most embarrassing effort ever.Blimey I did think you were a bit better than that, but to try and bluff it out about your share gaff is really pitiful.Never mind David, put this one to experience and keep swimming in the insurance pond.

It's not a good idea to keep drawing attention to it either.Anybody reading it will think you are an idiot.

backfoot:Eeeek ................that 's your most embarrassing effort ever.Blimey I did think you were a bit better than that, but to try and bluff it out about your share gaff is really pitiful.Never mind David, put this one to experience and keep swimming in the insurance pond.

I know quite a bit about Aviva, which is why I was asking for your views. RE the shares, this really wasn't a gaff. You're thinking about having a dabble... quite rightly so, if you think the time's right.

I'm pretty sure those following the thread are able to come to their own conclusion and decide who is the one 'bluffing' their way through and the one making gaffs ;o)

backfoot:

It's not a good idea to keep drawing attention to it either.Anybody reading it will think you are an idiot.

Ref the insulting second part of your comment, which you decided to slip in after, I might suggest you quit whilst you're behind!

Also, backfoot, could you kindly refrain from calling me 'David' and 'Mr. Brent' please? My real name isn't 'David' or 'Mr. Brent' and your continuous use of this terminology is giving me cause for concern RE: harassment. I've only asked this once, and polite in doing so. If you have any problems understanding this, might I suggest reading http://www.moneysupermarket.com/community/content/ForumUsage.aspx. Thank you!

Vicissitude:

backfoot:

It's not a good idea to keep drawing attention to it either.Anybody reading it will think you are an idiot.

Ref the insulting second part of your comment, which you decided to slip in after, I might suggest you quit whilst you're behind!

Also, backfoot, could you kindly refrain from calling me 'David' and 'Mr. Brent' please? My real name isn't 'David' or 'Mr. Brent' and your continuous use of this terminology is giving me cause for concern RE: harassment. I've only asked this once, and polite in doing so. If you have any problems understanding this, might I suggest reading http://www.moneysupermarket.com/community/content/ForumUsage.aspx. Thank you!

Aaaahhhh Viccy,

There ,there.

Priceless.The forum is full of you belittling,speaking down to and patronising other members, yet when you get the tiniest bit of your own medicine, you squeal to the beak. Harassment!!........lol..........your myopic imagination has no bounds.

Isn't it ironic, amongst all your quote dissection,and allegations of off topicness, that you kept up the barrage of trying to justify yourself over your Aviva share price faux pas.That's whats rankled you big time and you just can't let it drop.Your protest suggestion has curried no favour with anyone else,is fundamentally flawed and you are feeling all forlorn.I commented on it throughout using analogies from the insurance sector of why it is flawed and you have taken it all so personally, feeling challenged on your pet subject.(Yes we all know how good you are at it.)....yawn.

This from the person who previously chose to make a public apology for being a nob........in your own words.

Have a nice day, Baldrick.

Cheers.

Ref: backfoot post at Wed, May 14 2008 8:59 AM:

Because what I had written was a little OTT, which I recognised and rectified by voluntarily removing the post - an adult action! Although now, I'm not so sure it was OTT as you proved every point I wrote about!

My name is also not 'Baldrick', so would you kindly refrain from referring to me in any manner other than the name 'Vicissitude' as my choice of screen name. In actual fact, it might be an idea if you didn't refer to me at all as I no longer care for your opinion on any previous matter or that in the future.

Vicissitude:

Ref: backfoot post at Wed, May 14 2008 8:59 AM:

Because what I had written was a little OTT, which I recognised and rectified by voluntarily removing the post - an adult action! Although now, I'm not so sure it was OTT as you proved every point I wrote about!

My name is also not 'Baldrick', so would you kindly refrain from referring to me in any manner other than the name 'Vicissitude' as my choice of screen name. In actual fact, it might be an idea if you didn't refer to me at all as I no longer care for your opinion on any previous matter or that in the future.

Dearest Vivivicdude,

Humour bypass duly noted.

Time at the bar, gentlemen, please. Can we get this back on topic, now? Thanks...

Personally, I think we're yet to see the worst of the oil price rises. Are you having to cut back in other areas so you can afford fuel? Should the oil companies or the government be doing more to help us out? Are we going to see a consumer campaign as we did a few years ago? I know I'm having to be much more careful about the journeys I make as well as the energy I use around the house.

I know Graeme sorry.

I think that there is a lot of discontent over escalating prices,not just oil. As I have tried to explain some of this is partly laid at the Government's door and some of it is driven by changing world dynamics.What we have to be careful about is not jumping to the wrong conclusions and targetting the intermediaries who are essential to the successful operation of our dwindling manufacturing and production economy.

I have always tried to limit my travel but obviously the essential jouneys are ever more costly and it is helping to fuel food price increases and other costs of manufacturing and distribution.Tricky times ahead.