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Last post Fri, May 23 2008, 6:14 AM by Lucy100. 25 replies.
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  •  Sun, Feb 24 2008, 7:10 PM

    Re: Another Mobile Media Systems cash back story

    Hi,

    Another PHONEBOX DIRECT VICTIM.

    Just a quick note to say I found your comments and other entries very useful so will act on them.

    My network provider is Vodafone, but of course they dont take responsibilty when dealing with cashback claims.

    Cashback claims have been dismissed from September,,,,,, just have guessed the outcome from there on. We contacted Vodafone who advised us that they have thousands of people to deal with but will come back to us. Having waited two months we eventually cancelled our direct debit this Feb. Two days later we had a vodafone representative questioning us regarding the non payment, before that they were quite happy to take our money (£35 a month) and do nothing.

    Now we are in a situation as they have incurred costs on our non payment and a disconnection fee!! Have tried to call them to come to some kind of resolution but it is a matter of them calling you as CUSTOMER SERVICES cannot help!

    NB

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  •  Sun, Feb 24 2008, 7:28 PM

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    I didnt update my story
    so far i have negotiated both my wife and my contracts to 5£ monthly with all the same minutes and texts
    this sounds good and i am still kicking myself for agreeing this as i was verbally told that i would be reimbursed and was therefore effectively on a zero £ contract

    i have written to vodafone twice about reimbursements with just the usual reply
    "we take this matter very seriosuly"
    "we are looking into it and will get back to you"

    fool that i am i have been lazy and not pursued this as i should

    so i will be asking for my and my wife's reimbursements and seeing where that goes

    best of luck to the rest that got stuck

    andrew
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  •  Fri, Mar 28 2008, 7:40 PM

    Re: Another Mobile Media Systems cash back story

    Hi

    I am in the same situation regarding cash back

    I have 2 contracts I am paying a total og £61 per month My contract is with 3 mobile service provider.

    I was given 3 post dated cheques which later was rejected by the banks as the dealer want bankrupt.

    I immediately canceled by direct debit.

    I have written many letters asking 3 for downgrade but was refused.

    Now I am getting constant phone calls from 3 customer service threatning me with deit collecting agency.

    What shall I do ?

    Please advice.

    • Post Points: 38
  •  Mon, Apr 28 2008, 10:51 AM

    Re: Another Mobile Media Systems cash back story

    Hi,

    Hi Eng123

    3 Mobile weren't very helpful to me either. Infact, they were rubbish. After numerous phone calls to them, and promises of return calls.....no-one has been in touch. They only contact you if you ring up to cancel your contract....THEN they dont stop ringing you!!!! I'm very diappointed in them for not looking after their customers and will definitely be cancelling my contract when it runs in June.

    As for Vodaphone, at least they made an effort and gave me the remainder of my contract at half price. Still lost over £300 but have to put it down to experience. There are more and more laws coming out to stop these "cashback" scams....so even though its not going to help any of us with the present situation.....at least it should in future.....Good Luck

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  •  Wed, Apr 30 2008, 11:25 PM

    Re: Another Mobile Media Systems cash back story

    Deals agreed with a middle man are with the middleman. The network provider didnt offer you cashback therefore does not need to offer it to you.

    I understand its annoying, but if something seems to good to be true it generally is. In Vodafones defense they are dealing with all claims in the best way they can. Bear in mind majority of people are in the same mindset as you and believe that Vodafone / O2 / Orange etc are too blame. And are calling in en mass.


    They are not. They will however try to help. Be polite, and please understand it from their point of view: The contract you have is with the network provider. The network provider charges £35 per month, therefore you owe £35 per month. If Tom dick or Harry says they will give you £30 of that £35 back "Just because" And then they decide not to 5 months into the contract. Why on earth should the network provider honour it really?

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  •  Fri, May 02 2008, 6:38 PM

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    Do not agree with your comments at all.

    Deals with the middleman are with the middleman? - The deal agreed with the middlleman INCLUDE the name of the NETWORK PROVIDER. There is NO seperate contract issued by the NETWORK PROVIDERS, hence avoiding any responsibility.
    Secondly, VODAPHONE MUST HAVE HAD CONTRACTS IN PLACE WITH PHONEBOX DIRECT. Phonebox direct surely had links with Vodafone?

    VODAFONE SHOULD ENSURE THAT THEY DO BUSINESS WITH REPUTABLE COMPANIES.

    THEY SHOULD CHECK OUT THERE CRUDENTIALS BEFORE OFFERING JOINT DEALS.

    THERE WILL BE LAWS IN PLACE WHEREBY COMPANIES SUCH AS VODAPHONE WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH LEGAL REGULATIONS AND SEEK TO DO BUSINESS WITH COMPANIES WHO ARE COMMERCIALLY VIABLE.

    HENCE OFFERING ASSURANCE TO THE CUSTOMER.

    • Post Points: 5
  •  Fri, May 02 2008, 9:48 PM

    Re: Another Mobile Media Systems cash back story

    Voda-Assist is being disingenuous as are many of the Vodaphoneys . . . Deals agreed with a middleman are only contracts with the middleman when they a clear, distinct and meet the requirements of contract - an offer, an acceptance and a consideration. They must also be 'fair' - that means they must be open, obvious and clearly expressed . . . .

    Some were and, indeed, are. However most that I have looked at were not. Middlemen acting as agents arrange deals and the contract is with the principal - the end supplier - not with the agent. I doubt whether Voda-Phoney would be very happy to buy a ticket for an event from a bona fide agent, find the event was cancelled and then be told by the event promoter that the promoter was not liable for repayment as the deal was agreed with a middleman . . .

    Ah, I hear the Voda-Phoney say, this deal was in bits . . . Well in some cases as I have said that was or is made obvious, in others it was not. Indeed, I'd go so far as to say that in many cases the dealer / reseller positively represented the deal as a VodaPhoney deal or a NastyReddishColour deal or a Virgin (oh yeah?) deal . . . whatever. I have a collection of screen shots and advertisements of just such such representations and I myself have been happily assured by a motormouth salesman that the reseller was an agent for my network and the deal was supported by them . . .

    Of course you might say as Mandy Rice-Davis did in rather different circumstances ‘Well, he would say that wouldn’t he’ and no doubt our friendly local Voda-Phoney will say that is just sales patter. The answer to that is that there was an awful lot of that going on and it went on, indeed still goes on, for a very long time.

    Up pipes the Voda-Phoney again . . . asking ‘what has that to do with the price of fish?’ Well, nothing. However, Common Law, judge made law evolved from common sense over a long period of time, says that where a principal (in this case a network), allows and encourages an agent to use their name, their livery and logo etc in transactions that deliver benefit to them as principal but in the negotiation of which the agent exceeds their authority – or the principal doesn’t bother to supervise them properly – then the principal becomes liable for the deals struck by the agent . . . after all, the networks happily enforce the bits of the composite deal advantageous to them!

    Basically Voda-Phoney, the networks cannot have their cake and eat it! What galls me and many others is that these deals were targeted at the very groups most desperate for low cost services, extended families in immigrant communities – often took on several contracts, disabled people and their carers so as to keep in touch, students, people in low paid occupations etc. etc. The arrogance, the misrepresentation and on occasion the lies spouted by these value and moral free outfits frankly make me sick. And, for Voda-Phoneys information, his network is equal worst in this plain nastyness.

    I got my money back from my network (far more polite, reasonable and ethical that Voda-Phoneys bunch of money-grubbers) however, I have become so incensed by what I have seen in the behaviour of other networks that I will probably spend time in excess of the value of what I recovered trying to do what I think is right.

    Funforus (but not for Voda-Phoneys!)

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  •  Tue, May 06 2008, 2:19 PM

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    "Voda-Assist" ( hmmmmm ).......Anyone in their right "mindset" would know that the Network providers ARE to blame because the Network Providers are all to happy to take the custom from these "middle-men"...The "middle men" MUST be making a pretty penny FROM these network providers, otherwise, where would they be getting any money from at all!!!

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  •  Mon, May 19 2008, 1:58 PM

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    I rest my case.. 3 Mobile have just rang me as my contract finishing soon offering me the £73.50 cashback I'm owed....ONLY if i renew my contract for 18 months......Tried and tried contacting them for 6 months about the cashback to no avail....now as if by magic!!! Hmmmmmmm...dont you just hate being right lol.

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  •  Wed, May 21 2008, 2:20 PM

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    I have seen in a number of other forums where people have had the same trouble as you. There are a number of companies who ran the same type of offer last year, and a lot of them ended up going bust stop trading. I think coolnewmobile.com was a site which kept cropping up with many complaints about them. I think many mobile phone companies have now stopped offering this type of deal, because of the bad press they received over it. Good luck with the claim. Sorry I can be more helpful.

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  •  Fri, May 23 2008, 6:14 AM

    Re: Another Mobile Media Systems cash back story

    Thanks....Yes, I've been using these cashback schemes for years, so I went in with eyes open and realise that my luck would run out one day. All in all, I'm still better off than I would have been if I hadn't used them as I've not had a phone bill for years, and have had a new mobile phone every year! Not suprised this happened, just trying to point out that the actual phone companies that deal with these middlemen should take more responsibility. I'm still £400 or £500 down, but then, thats what some people pay for one year anyway.
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